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RCU Review: Hobby People Outlaw
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Contributed by: Matthew LeMay | Published: April 2011 | Views: 27042 |
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Review by: Matt LeMay Video shot by: Starla LeMay Action photos by: Cameron LeMay
The law in this here town says beginner buggies are beginner buggies and advanced buggies are advanced buggies. Beginner buggies are for learning on. When the cowboy becomes a cowman, it's time to buy an advanced buggy. There's a new kid in town and he don't like to follow the rules. He seems to think he can help beginners learn to drive and, with some hop-up parts, race with the big boys. He's been deemed an OUTLAW!
Specifications At first glance Performance Conclusion Manufacturer & Distributor Info
Hobby People Global Services 18480 Bandilier Circle Fountain Valley, CA 92708 Phone: 1-714-963-0329 Fax: 714-964-6236 Website: www.hobbypeople.net
Nimble on the track Fast Many battery choices LiPO ready Much adjustability Fan cooled ESC Tough design
Name: Outlaw Price: $199.99 (price may vary) Scale: 1/8 Drive: 4WD Power System: Electric, Brushless Length: 19.5" Width: 12.125" Wheel Base: 12.5" Weight: 4.65 lbs
Eight "AA" alkaline batteries for radio 6-7 cell NiMH / NiCD or 2-3 cell LiPO Battery pack Suitable charger AM Radio system Excess wheel wiggle
The Outlaw is a sleek looking buggy with its low stance and dish style wheels. There's not a whole lot to buggy bodies, but what's there, looks good. The two mounting posts up front are a great feature. The rear has your typical single mount. The positioning of the three body posts keep the body in place without any clips installed. That's pretty cool. The firm tires will wear well and the square knobbies provide traction on and off road. The foam inserts ensure the tires will spring back into shape and help reinforce the tire's side walls during high speed cornering. The tires have been neatly glued to the plastic dish style rims.
Left
Body detail
Right
Front angle
Front
Rear angle
Left
Rear
Right
Top
Top
Bottom
Bumper
Wing
Body mount location
Chassis The aluminum chassis consists of a flat bottom deck with necessary cutouts to aid in cooling the electronics as well as keeping things light. The upper aluminum deck of the chassis is used to strengthen the overall back bone of the vehicle and secures the steering and drive components. Two "X" shaped braces join the upper and lower decks for rigidity. The battery tray is located on the left side of the vehicle and can accommodate 6-7 cell stick packs or 2-3 cell LiPO batteries. The design of the battery tray secures stick packs with the cells constructed both length ways and cross ways thanks to the reversible plastic strap. Posts at either end of the tray include a couple different holes in them to
accommodate different height batteries as well. Two clips are used to secure the rigid plastic strap. A wing is secured to the rear of the buggy with tough plastic mounts. The wing isn't adjustable, but if you feel the need for extra down force, Hobby People offer a wing for just that. Go to www.hobbypeople.net to purchase. Phillips head screws are used throughout the buggy which is good news for the beginner since most people keep a phillips head screw driver somewhere in the house. Lock nuts are used where necessary. Suspension The suspension in the Outlaw buggy offers several tuning adjustments like front wheel toe in/out, front and rear camber, several inner and outer upper link mounting holes to change geometry, upper and lower shock mounting options, ride height, and dampening. The plastic H-arms used as the lower part of the suspension have some flex to aid in durability. Hinge pins secure the H-arms to the wheel hubs and gear boxes. Adjustable upper links keep the hubs steady and provide a quick way to adjust camber. I have already driven this buggy a bunch and the shock resistant plastic used in the suspension has held up great. The four plastic bodied shocks use upper and lower metal caps with rubber seals to keep the oil inside where it belongs. Plastic clip-on spacers are used to adjust ride height. The yellow springs are looking fine at each of the four corners. Aluminum shock towers are used on the front and rear of the Outlaw. Hobby People also offer several aluminum hop-up parts such as steering knuckles, front and rear hubs, and motor mount. After testing the Outlaw in stock form, I will install some of the aluminum parts for further testing. Drive train A plastic spur gear doubles as the slipper clutch. The plastic may not be as durable as a steel gear but it does have some benefits. The lighter weight plastic gives the buggy more initial acceleration and is much quieter than its metal counterpart. There's not much room to reach the adjustment nut, thanks to the upper chassis plate and battery tray. I found the easiest way to adjust the slipper is to place the wrench on the slipper nut by going through the cutout in the upper chassis plate. You can now roll the buggy forward to tighten or backward to loosen the slipper clutch. Using this method requires no disassembly and is quite easy. Four bevel gears are used in both front and rear sealed differentials. The diffs are filled with grease, but after running box stock for about a week I replaced the grease with fluid. I used 7000 in the front and 3000 in the rear diff. I noticed a favorable difference from the stock setup. A center dog-bone drive shaft transfers power to the front diff. Steel dog-bone drive shafts are also used at each wheel. The Outlaw 4wd has a complete set of sealed bearings for smooth action and reliability. 17mm aluminum hex hubs are used to mount the wheels. After running the buggy several times it developed some excess play in the rear plastic hub carriers. I'll have to install the aluminum hub carriers to see if the play is reduced.
Suspension
Sway bar ready
Suspension arm
Rear hub carrier
Rear Suspension
Front hub carrier
Dog bone drive shafts
Hubs
Drive shafts
Gear box
Slipper spur gear
Gear box
Rear differential
Inside rear diff.
Greased Diff unit
Transmitter & Receiver A Cirrus 2-channel AM radio is included with the Outlaw buggy. The radio requires eight AA batteries and lights on the front of the transmitter keep track of their status. There's a red, yellow, and green LED light. Below the indicator lights are the steering and throttle trim knobs. The Cirrus radio also includes end point adjustments for both steering and throttle. A steering "dual rate" adjustment wheel is located on the handle and is easily accessed by thumb. Two levers on top of the transmitter are for throttle and steering servo reversing. Servo A standard plastic geared Cirrus servo is used to control steering. The servo is secured with four screws and is protected by an adjustable servo saver. Toe in and toe out can be adjusted by screwing the tie rods in or out. More toe out means more steering but less straight line stability. More toe in means less steering and more straight line stability. There is of course such ting as too much and too little, so start with the factory settings and make small adjustments from there. Electronic speed control & Motor A Hobby People sensored/sensorless 90 amp brushless electronic speed controller regulates power to the 2950 Kv brushless motor. A fan helps keep the ESC cool and aluminum cooling fins help the motor stay cool. A small button on the side of the ESC is used to calibrate throttle position. The ESC is mounted to the chassis with double sided mounting tape and the motor is mounted to a plastic motor mount with two screws. A small on/off switch is also mounted to the chassis with mounting tape.
AM Receiver
Transmitter
Speed controller
Brushless Motor
Motor mount
Steering servo
Battery tray
OPTIONAL ALUMINUM HOP-UP PARTS (sold seperately)
Aluminum Hub Carriers
Aluminum Steering Hub Carriers
Aluminum Hub Carriers (rear)
Aluminum motor mount
Performance Before taking the Outlaw out side, I checked the screws for proper tightening and the appropriate use of locktite. I recommend doing this with all RTR vehicles because every one so far has needed locktite in at least one area. The Outlaw is no different. Make sure you have thread-lock on all set screws in the drive train as well as the motor mount screws. A small drop is all that's needed on each screw. Too much thread-locker will make it difficult to remove the screw when needed. It is now time to take the Outlaw outside for some fun. Several testing areas were used and we'll begin by talking about the dirt. Cornering on dirt was a pleasure with the Outlaw. I've noticed with many vehicles that do not have a center diff out of the box, the vehicle will usually react one of two ways. The least desirable is of course under steer. Some vehicles
the box, the vehicle will usually react one of two ways. The least desirable is of course under steer. Some vehicles need to have a heavy amount of braking to swing the rear end around the turn. The second of the two is a loose rear end. This is where there is so much rear wheel slip the rear end wants to come around on you. The Outlaw however, is predictably loose. The rear does slide around, but it is easy to control. So easy to control in fact, no braking is needed in most turning situations. It was a blast applying half throttle part way through the turn, watching the rear slide around and slowly increasing the throttle to make the jump. I am very pleased at the way the Outlaw corners out of the box. Jumping the outlaw was a pleasure as well. The battery pack can be placed toward the front or rear of the battery tray to help balance out the buggy. I placed the battery toward the front of the battery tray and this worked well for me. Jumping characteristics were consistent and I usually needed to apply a little throttle in the air to keep the nose level. Placing the battery to the back position would have solved this, but I liked having the center of gravity forward for cornering. Straight line driving is where it gets a little exciting. The buggy wants to drift which is no concern for bashing in the grass or dirt lot, but on a dirt track with others, it's pretty important you keep a consistent line if you don't want to wreck. The Outlaw is still very drivable and I had a blast running on the track with it, but some adjustments need to be made if you want to keep up with the track veterans every week. Around the track the Outlaw feels light and nimble. Like I mentioned above, the buggy can get a little squirely under acceleration but that's part of what makes it so much fun to drive. I drove the Outlaw in my front yard as well. Grass is no problem for this 1/8 scale buggy and jumping my driveway was no great challenge either. This buggy has a good feel to it. It craves to be driven fast. I told myself I would take it easy and next thing I know, I'm jumping the street. Actually, it looked pretty darn cool clearing the entire street, landing on the other side, and hopping back on again. Driving on pavement was cool as well. The brakes are fun to do U-turns on a dime, but you really don't need them to make classic sharp turns. This buggy likes to turn sharp and all that is needed is letting off the throttle before turning. The weight shifts to the front tires allowing the rear to swing around as needed. I try not to through this phrase around, but this buggy really is a pleasure to drive. I need to point out some quirks I found with the Outlaw 4wd buggy. There's a slight hesitation in the throttle while applying full throttle from a stand still and at minimal throttle input there's a twitch. It didn't effect my ability to run, but it was noticeable enough to mention. Braking on the other hand was smooth. I would have liked to see a metal gear steering servo in the Outlaw buggy. I drive really hard, and for good reason. I try to drive the vehicles I'm testing as I think others would drive. Don't get me wrong, I didn't jump the street just because I thought someone else might try that. I really enjoyed it! This buggy begs to be driven hard. You will see what I mean if you drive one. With that being said, the steering servo didn't survive all my hard landings, tumbles, and adrenaline. I had an inexpensive metal gear servo lying around so I popped it in there. I'm confident the rest of the steering and suspension components will hold up to my abuse. Overall it's a tough buggy! Speed is one thing the Outlaw doesn't lack. Even with a six cell NiMH pack I was able to reach 34.7 mph. That's something to be proud of. With a 2s LiPO I was able to reach a top speed of 38.1 mph. That's fast! The Outlaw performed well with each of the batteries tested. Below is a list of batteries with the top speeds and run times.
Battery comparison chart Battery used
Top Speeds
Run times
6-cell NiMH 4200 mah by Proboat
28.2 mph
10 minutes
6-cell NiMH DTX 5000 by Duratrax
34.7 mph
12.5 minutes
7-cell NiMH 3000 mah by Traxxas
37.4 mph
9 minutes
2s LiPO 3200 mah 25c by Dynamite
38.1 mph
12.5 minutes
2s LiPO 5000 mah 20c by Turnigy
36.6 mph
17.5 minutes
CHECK OUT THE YOUTUBE VIDEOS OF THE OUTLAW BELOW Hobby People OUTLAW in grass. Run with 6-cell NiMH & 2s LiPO
I am very impressed with the Hobby People Outlaw 4wd buggy as a whole. It's fast, it handles well, and it is durable. I also like the many options for battery choice. I recommend beginners starting with a 6-cell NiMH pack. You can always increase battery as your skills improve. This buggy feels right at home at our local off road track, my front yard, parking lot, indoor track, and park. It has the size and speed of an 1/8 scale buggy but the nimble feel of a 1/10. The Hobby People Outlaw is a great beginner buggy. It offers all the necessary components for a beginner and offers many advanced features, adjustments, and hop-ups to keep you interested for many years.
Hobby People 18480 Bandilier Circle Fountain Valley, CA 92708 1-800-854-8471 ext 1. Hours M-F 9am to 4:30pm PST 1-714-963-0329 Fax: 1-714-964-6236 Email:
[email protected] www.hobbypeople.net
Comments on RCU Review: Hobby People Outlaw Posted by: Moserkid on 04/13/2011 im glad someone is actually putting the run times in their reviews.
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